News as of January 31, 2001
MP3s from Aerosmithsonian
Two MP3s from the tribute album 'Aerosmithsonian' are now available at http://www.perrisrecords.com/, together with the album cover (below).
Last Child (Jason McMaster of Dangerous Toys Vocalist)
Sweet Emotion (Derek St. Holmes, Ted Nugent Vocalist)
Although, not very different from the original versions I think these sound really good... Give 'em a listen!
AEROSMITHSONIAN "AEROSMITH TRIBUTE" ($14.95)
(2 Cd's-In Stock Perris Records has collaborated Rocks greatest Idols paying homage to AEROSMITH, legends of Rock ‘N Roll. All these vocalist have sold over 20 million records in their collective bands worldwide. Carmine Appice (Rod Stewart, Ozzy, Vanilla Fudge) exclusivly played drums on all the tracks. Jason McMaster laying all the bass tracks with Steve Fister (Lita Ford) on all rhythm guitars. Special guest Gilby Clarke (Guns ‘N Roses), Keri Kelli (Slash’s Snakepit, Ratt), Marc Ferrari (Keel), Jaimie Scott (Vain) played on the guitar solos. Jimmy Crespo co-wrote “Rock in a Hard Place” when he was in Aerosmith which he re-invents on this recording. The Free Cd will include full songs from Ron Keel, Babylon A.D., Steve Fister, Derek St. Holmes,Davy Vain, Gilby Clarke, Rough Cutt, The Bridge, Carmine Appice, Broken Teeth & Cherry Street. This Free Cd will promote and help sell the back catalog from these artist and will be the same price as a single Cd.
1. SWEET EMOTION-DEREK ST. HOLMES (TED NUGENT VOCALIST)
2. LAST CHILD-JASON MCMASTER (DANGEROUS TOYS VOCALIST )
3. BACK IN THE SADDLE-RON KEEL (KEEL VOCALIST)
4. MAMA KIN-DEREK ST. HOLMES (TED NUGENT VOCALIST)
5. TRAIN KEPT A ROLLIN-DEREK DAVIS (BABYLON A.D.VOCALIST)
6. LORD OF THE THIGHS -RON TAYLOR (LILLIAN AXE VOCALIST)
7. ROCK IN A HARD PLACE -PAUL SHORTINO (QUIET RIOT, ROUGH CUTT) W/JIMMY CRESPO ON GUITAR (AEROSMITH)
8. S.O.S. - DAVY VAIN (VAIN VOCALIST) JAIMIE SCOTT (VAIN GUITARIST)
9. GET THE LEAD OUT-JASON MCMASTER (DANGEROUS TOYS VOCALIST) TOM MATHERS (CHERRY ST. GUITARIST)
10. WALK THIS WAY- ALLSTAR LINEUP ON VOCALS including DEREK ST. HOLMES, JASON MCMASTER, RON KEEL, DEREK DAVIS,& RON TAYLOR)
Aerosmith on MTV's Making The Video
According to the new TV guide (February 3-9, 2001), MTV will be running Aerosmith's Making the Video on the 6th at 10:30PM EST.
There's an article on page 55-- MUSIC GUIDE by Fred Mitchell:
"MAKING THE VIDEO: (Tues., MTV) Aerosmith fans will slam the gas pedal when
their songs blare through the car radio, and they'll drop everything to
watch one of the enduring rockers' imaginative videos. Here Steven Tyler
and Co. welcome the faithful to check out their new 'Jaded' clip. The
video, says series executive producer Billy Rainey, merges the band's power
pop with a macabre fairy tale set within a play. The episode includes
interviews with Aerosmith and director Francis Lawrence, who helmed their 'I
Don't Want to Miss a Thing' video. As for the tune, expect the expected:
Rainey says it's 'the Aerosmith we've come to know and love over the past 25
or 30 years'."
MTV Latin America
When you enter MTVla.com a pop-up window with Steven Tyler, with the title "interview", appears. You can send in questions to the members of the band (in spanish), so there will obviously be an interview with the boys on MTVla soon...
News as of January 30, 2001
The Super Bowl performance in Realmedia
In case you missed the halftime hoopla, AF1 is streaming Aerosmith's mind-blowing performance for
a limited time! (Real Player Required)
Berkshire Hills Music Academy
Los Angeles Times
There was a small mention of Aerosmith in the LA Times. In the article "Passion for Music Drives Columbia Chief to Make Plenty of Industry Noise", Columbia Records Chairman Don Ienner offers insights into his success. In his first extensive interview in his three decades in the music business, Ienner discussed the challenge of running a giant record company that pumps out 100 albums a year.
I only post the part that has to do with Aerosmith...
Q: What part does radio play in the equation?
A: It's difficult. Many radio stations are afraid to take chances on songs by unknown artists and yet they refuse to play new songs by established acts. That's why we sink so much energy into event marketing.
Q: What's that?
A: Well, it used to be considered somewhat of a cultural event when a great artist like Bob Dylan put out a new record. Not anymore. No matter how fantastic the music is, what you have to do now is create an aura around the record so it seems like an event. Take Billy Joel, for example. Even if he had a full-blown smash, you'd have to tie it to a movie in some way. You have no choice. Aerosmith has a new record coming out, but before we even put a video out, we asked them to appear on the American Music Awards. And on Sunday, we set it up for them to perform during the Super Bowl with 'N Sync. That's the way it is now. Sting couldn't get radio to touch his new album until he provided a track to Jaguar for a commercial and everybody started asking about it. The fact is you've got to event-market the first single by most established artists now or it's just not going to work.
In a rarity, the Super Bowl's 30-minute halftime show -- produced this year
by CBS sister cable channel MTV -- attracted a larger overall audience
(preliminary 86.5 million) than the game, as well as better demos (36.9 in
adults 18-49, 34.2 in adults 18-34, 38.3 in adults 25-54 and a 29.9 in
The game peaked in the hour that ended with the halftime concert featuring
Aerosmith and 'N Sync, among others, and then tailed off in the second half
as the score widened.
From USA Today....
'NSync and Aerosmith both said they wouldn't have wanted to be anywhere else
on Super Bowl Sunday than on the 50-yard line at Raymond James Stadium,
guitars blaring, hips gyrating and pyrotechnics blazing.
First and foremost, sharing the halftime bill was a valuable learning
experience. For both bands.
"It's incredible, truly incredible," said Justin Timberlake, one of 'NSync's
20-something band members. "I can't tell you how much we've learned. That
comes from mileage."
Steven Tyler, Aerosmith's legendary lead singer, shot up out of his chair.
"What are you saying?" the 50-something Tyler asked. "Hey, Lance (Bass). What
about those naked surfers you showed us on the Internet? Hey, these guys
aren't what they look like on the outside. And that's a good thing."
So, what did Tyler's 20-something actress daughter, Liv, think of about her
dear old dad playing at the Super Bowl?
"Well, if I didn't take this gig, she threatened to run the family cat
through a blender," Tyler said.
News as of January 29, 2001
Halftime Show Offers Own Highlights
Sunday January 28 9:39 PM ET
Halftime Show Offers Own Highlights
By MARK LONG, AP Sports Writer
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - MTV gave the Super Bowl plenty of lights, cameras, and action Sunday night.
The 10-minute halftime show - which was produced by MTV for the first time and featured a mix of rock, pop, and hip hop stars - was a drastic change for America's premier sporting event.
N'Sync and Aerosmith headlined the show, which provided viewers with fireworks and constant strobe lights. Each band took turns singing songs before coming together - along with special guests Britney Spears, Nelly, and Mary J. Blige - for a rendition of Aerosmith's 1975 classic ``Walk This Way.''
With thousands of ``fans'' flooding the stadium infield, the presentation resembled a concert. Many of the fans held neon signs, also giving it the look of a WWF match.
But the highlight of the event came just before the jam session. Under each seat at Raymond James Stadium, there was a one-time-use flash camera. The fans were asked to simultaneously snap a shot when prompted by the big screens above each end zone.
Their cue came during Aerosmith's second song, and the fans responded to give the 70,000-seat stadium the look and feel of a giant disco.
The halftime show also came with a warmup act, a 90-second film featuring comedians Chris Rock, Adam Sandler, and Ben Stiller. But something obviously was wrong with the film, because it flickered in and out for most of its duration, and it was difficult to follow.
Super Bowl performance on Napster
From what I hear you can get "Walk This Way" from the Superbowl on Napster already! The one that is 9:08 is real.
I hope this isn't true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is...
This was posted on the AF1 boards by someone that is supposed to have been in contact with
members of the band...
"True there are members of the band that are sick about doing this and are
being told that this is the way it's being done, like it or lump it.
In fact it is humiliating when the record company orders the band to see an
image consultant to make over the band to make their appearance more
mainstream. Haircuts and sunglasses were suggested to clean up their
appearance and to cover lines around their eyes."
While friends were having dinner with Joey Kramer and
April 2 weeks ago, Joey's nephew walked in the house
and questioned Joey on why they would appear with NSync.
Joey said he did not want to and was forced to. He was
and is not crazy about doing it. He said to others at
the dinner table that the record company told the band
that this is the direction they want the band to go
The record company let Tyler and Perry write most of
the material as long as they write songs that Sony
feels will sell and not turn off the mainstream fans.
The band is aware they will alienate their older fans
but their record company feels they need a new fan
base whose parents are willing to spend money on
tickets and merchandise.
The band feels that this is their last record and
wants to go for as many bucks as they can.
Sony promised the band that they will get their
singles played on all available media outlets as long
as the band plays ball with them.
Also it was suggested that certain members of the band
seek image consultants provided by Sony to fix their
It is safe to say that Kramer is unhappy with being
dictated to and the band knows and hears all the
negative stuff about Jaded and the Super Bowl but at
this stage they feel they have no choice but to see
News as of January 28, 2001
Diana Minor website
A few days ago I posted that Diana Minor is sponsored by Billie and Joe Perry. Now, if you visit her website and click on "Joe's Cue" you'll find 5 pics of Joe Perry. She also mentions him and Billie on the sponsors section and mentions Walk This Way as her favorite book!
News as of January 27, 2001
Jaded Single Tracklisting
The official Aerosmith website has put up this tracklisting:
"Jaded" CD Single
In Stores 2/20
1. Jaded (Album Version)
2. Jaded (Acoustic Mix)
3. Angel's Eye +
4. Jaded (Stripped Down Mix)
5. Under My Skin (Reprise)
Produced by Tyler, Perry, Hudson & Frederiksen
Seems we'll be able to get Angel's Eye without buying that crappy soundtrack. Now, I could have done without the mixes but I hope that the 'Stripped Down Mix' is more raw so that may be a good thing. And it seems we'll get a new track aswell... =)
Mixed by Mike Shipley & The Boneyard Boys*
* The Boneyard Boys are Tyler, Perry, Hudson & Frederiksen
+ Produced by Tyler, Perry Frederiksen
Jaded on charts
Billboard 100 Hot Singles: #37 (last week #58)
Billboard Mainstream Rock Tracks: #4 (debut)
Radio & Record Online Chart:
Active Rock: #13 (last week #26)
CHR/Pop: #28 (last week #50)
Rock: #3 (last week #8)
Aerosmith mention in Guitar World
Aerosmith were mentioned in a Guitar World Magazine article about Everclear. They were talking about how their main influences were the old hard rhythms of rock and roll in the 70's with bands like Zeppelin and Aerosmith and how Rocks is the lead singer's favorite album and he has to listen to it where ever he goes.
Toronto Sun-Fri. Jan. 27
The last page of the Toronto Sun has a pic of Steven during an interview playing with a football with the caption "Dude Looks Like a Player?"
The good morning show on CBS
The good morning show on CBS (the one with Bryant Gumble) this morning showed some interview footage with
N'Sync and Aerosmith. Basically it just showed Aerosmith practicing "I Dont Want To Miss A Thing" and had Aerosmith telling their super bowl picks. I think everyone but Brad are rooting for Baltimore (I know for sure Steven and Joey are).
Superbowl in France and Belgium
Canal plus, channel for french and belgians viewers (who must paid for it) will also show the Superbowl on sunday night from 0.15 until 4.30.
Fees For Superbowl Performance - USA TODAY
Borrowed from the AOL board post by Mark...
The USA Today Friday edition has a cover story in their Money section titled
"Super Bowl accepts no half-hearted effort -- Halftime extravaganza grows more
extravagant with each production". On the second page, there is a big banner
headline that reads "MTV execs to produce a show featuring Aerosmith". It
basically details the whole halftime concept from a business perspective.
It's a pretty long article. Anyway, here is a clip about Aerosmith's fee:
"While Super Bowl halftime has come a long way, some celebrities still
associate it with the old world of Disneyesque characters and dancing
snowflakes. That's one reason Bruce Springsteen's representatives let MTV
executives know months in advance of the game: Don't even bother asking him
But the tide is turning. Musical stars about to begin a national tour or
release an album like the promotional boost that halftime offers. Both 'N
Sync and Aerosmith have new albums on tap.
NEVER MIND THAT THEY ARE NOT PAID A NICKEL FOR THEIR EFFORTS BEYOND HOUSING
TRAVEL EXPENSES. THEIR REWARD IS PURE EGO GRATIFICATION."
And marketing of course...(I added that one)
Aerosmith fan to join on stage at the Superbowl
Here is more news from Little South of America... This text was in Spanish, so it's been translated:
Superbowl: MTV Halftime
Sunday 28th will be the day most expected in the sport's wolrd in US:
Superbowl XXXV, the final game. A whole big event known by its great shows
during the halftime. This year, the organizers of the event asked to MTV to
be in charge of the organization of the show. and what a show the world will
Last Superbowl we got Enrique Iglesias and Christina Aguilera; this year
will be more elaborated because MTV will take the chance for starting the
celebrations that will happen during all the year for their 20 years of
existence on August. The show will be performed by Aerosmith, N'Sync,
Britney Spears, sting, Bon Jovi, Stix, BSB, and Isabel Villegas & her
Isabel Villegas & her mother? Let's see:
The first part of this famous Halftime show will be a lighting, sound,
cinetic and choreographic special made by MTV and it'll include the winner
of the "Superbowl Contest" in MTVla.com. The prize will be to be taken to
the show. no, not to a seat beside a fat American speaking with his mouth
full of hotdog and a glass of watered beer in his hand. she'll be on the
grass. just in front of the stage.
But it isn't all, the winner and her mother will be a part of the show.
Isabel Villegas (fan of Aerosmith, 19 years old) and her mother (both from
Puebla, Mexico) will be ON stage, dancing and singing and being seen by
millions of TV viewers!. They are already in Tampa rehearsing.
This is the schedule: Bon Jovi will perform in a party that will be
broadcasted moments before the game. Then it'll be the turn for Sting who'll
sing his last hit "desert Rose" and the classic Police's "Roxanne" during
the show before the game at the stadium. BSB will perfom too with "Star
Spangled Banner" and after that Stix will follow them playing "Come Sail
Away" while a pirat ship will come into the stadium.
After that preliminar show, Ravens of Baltimore and Giants of New York will
come into the stadium and there will be a big bang when 80,000 fans begin to
shout sounding higher than a Boeing 747.
During the halftime Isabel Villegas, her mother and the rest of the crew
will come in for the beginning show that will include a special about
Charlie's Angels movie and a super show of lights and sound. After that will
come N'Sync singing "Bye Bye Bye" and It's Gonna Be Me. Then Aerosmith will
arrive for playing I Don't Want To Miss a Thing and jaded (their next
single). Soon after that, N'Sync will be back for paying and rap with
Aerosmith, Britney Spears, mary J. Blige and Nelly, the song Walk This way
that will be the great end of the show.
News as of January 26, 2001
Aerosmith's schedule for the next three months!!!!
Here is Aerosmith's schedule for January, February and March (as posted at the Sony Argentina website)
Very interesting!! I doubt we're supposed to be seeing this. I don't know what it all mean and I assume a lot of this is subject to change but still... wow!!
25 Tampa, FL: Superbowl Rehearsal 4pm- 10pm
26 Tampa, FL: Superbowl Rehearsal
Tampa, FL: Superbowl Rehearsal
28 Tampa, FL: Superbowl
5 Boston: International media junket / Video Jaded (version 1)
6 Boston: International media junket
7 Boston: International media junket
8 Boston: International media junket
9 Boston: International media junket
12 Video Jaded (version 2)
20 The whole band goes to Europe
21 arrival in Europe
26 Europe / Jaded single commercially released in Europe (TBC)
MTV Promotion start date TBD; VH-1 Behind the Music TBD
5 Europe / Jaded single commerically released in Europe (TBC)
8 Return to U.S.
10 MTV Spring Break promotion in Cancun, TBD?
Secret shows in LA, NY, Chicago, Boston?
11 MTV Spring Break promotion in Cancun, TBD?
NARM, Orlando, TBD
12 MTV Spring Break promotion in Cancun, TBD?
14 NARM/Album released in Japan
17 NYC: Saturday Night Live TBD
19 Worldwide (ex-North America and Japan) album release
20 U.S. Album Instore
NYC: Today Show outdoor "Jaded" performance TBD
NYC: in-store appearance; Virgin Times Square; TBD
Other album launch event = award of 80 million sold plaque?
21 NYC: Letterman/Leno and other TV TBD
23 Boston: in-store appearance or other Boston event TBD
28 Travel to Toronto (Steven, Joe, and Tom)
29 Toronto: promo
30 Toronto: promo
31 Return to U.S.
Billboard Hot 100 Singles
On next week's Billboard Hot 100 Singles Chart "Jaded" will move up
from number 58 to 37! This song is gonna be huge. Hole In My Soul peaked at
51 and Falling In Love peaked at 34 so my guess is that Just Push Play will
do better than Nine Lives did!!
Aerosmith at MTV.com / 'The Skit' in Realmedia
When you go to the newly redesignes MTV Online site the first thing you see is a nice sized pic of Steven and a headline that reads "Tune into Aerosmith's "Jaded" for a Super Bowl Halftime Show Preview"
Now, if you go to their Super Bowl page you'll find this:
To kick off the Super Bowl halftime
show, Ben Stiller stars in a 90-second
film, featuring Aerosmith, *NSYNC,
Adam Sandler and Chris Rock.
Realmedia Clips of:
1. Don't Wanna Kiss Your Thing
2. No "I" in Aerosmith
3. Aerosmith and *NSYNC synergy
New website coming?
www.aerosmith.tv. Now, there isn't anything on this site yet, just says that it is a registered site and it will be launched soon.
Does anyone know if this is going to be an official site or if it is only registered by a fan? Just thought it might be worth keeping an eye on it to see what happens with it in the future...
Aaron Hirsch's website
Aaron Hirsch has yanked the movie featuring his brothers (that I posted about yesterday) from his website liquiddreams.net and left this note:
A message to all my cyber friends:
For all of my friends and family who enjoy this site, thanks for your support and comments. Keep 'em coming.
For all the people who got upset by what had happened in the last few weeks I apologize for letting this get out of hand and snowball like this.
Hope we can all meet in the middle somewhere...
Aerosmith on TRL
On TRL Carson Daly was down in Florida and he did a small interview with Aerosmith!
Carson talked to them about people giving them a hard time about "collaborating" with Nsync, and Carson was just like it's no big deal. Tyler said that its a global event and then Tom said something about it, he was like "it's not like a mall opening we're doing I mean this is the superbowl!". Joe Perry said that March 20th is about the release date for Just Push Play.
Access Hollywood showed a clip of the guys rehearsing last night. You might check your local listings because some affiliates might repeat this show... They also mentioned they'd have more tomorrow, although I don't know if they are going to show the guys or not.
Also, since they did do a press conference, things might show up on the other entertainment shows too.
News as of January 25, 2001
Stars "Walk This Way" To Tampa (AF1)
Pop princess Britney Spears, rap mogul Nelly and R&B soul diva Mary J. Blige
will share the stage with Aerosmith and NSYNC at E*Trade's Super Bowl Halftime
show! The star-studded line-up is scheduled to perform Aerosmith's classic
hit "Walk This Way" as the finale of the halftime explosion. The Boston
Bad Boys are also scheduled to perform their blockbuster hit "I Don't Want
To Miss A Thing" and their current single, "Jaded." Rehearsals are under
way in Tampa, reports coordinating producer Greg Choa, so the set list is
subject to change.
Complete Superbowl Agenda
Here it is folks. Everything you need to get you thru the weekend.
Sunday- Noon EST on CBS. TRL at the Superbowl. Aerosmith and NSync join Carson Daly for TRL.
Sunday- 6:18 pm EST on CBS. Kickoff of Superbowl XXXV between The New York Giants and the Baltimore Ravens.
Sunday- Halftime on MTV- MTV will be showing a special 10 minute skit just as the 1st half ends. Tune over to MTV just as the gun sounds ending the 1st half. This skit will feature Adam Sandler and Ben Stiller with Chris Rock, Aerosmith and N'Sync.
ETRADE SUPERBOWL HALFTIME SHOW (tentative schedule and order):
NSync: "Its Gonna Be Me (w Britney?)"
Aerosmith "I Don't Want To Miss A Thing"
NSync: "Bye Bye Bye"
Aerosmith, NSync, Britney Spears, Mary J Blige, and Nelly: "Walk This Way"
Should be interesting....
Cool Joe Perry Family Project!
Joe Perry's wife Bille has a son (Aaron Hirsch) and he has a web site called "Liquid Dreams". Well, it has some little animations on it and one of them is a very funny one. It's a take-off of "Beavis & Butt-Head", and it includes Joe and Billie's sons Tony & Roman as Beavis and Butt-Head. Funny!
Check it out: http://www.liquiddreams.net/tr.htm
Now, maybe you (like me) think that there is no proof that this guy really is her son? Well, here is some proof:
Register.com's profile of the owner of Liquid Dreams:
Aaron Hirsch (LIQUIDDREAMS2-DOM)
3605 NE 207th Street Apt. 4300
Aventura, FL 33180
Domain Name: liquiddreams.net
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Hirsch, Aaron (AHN62) aaron_hirsch@HOTMAIL.COM
3605 NE 207th Street
Aventura, FL 33180
Friday January 19 10:00 AM ET
Most Popular Recordings
Weekly charts for the nation's recorded music as they appear in the Jan. 27,
2001, issue of Billboard magazine.
(Compiled from a national sample of sales reports collected, compiled and
provided by SoundScan; radio playlists; and monitored radio by Broadcast
(Compiled from a national sample of airplay supplied by Broadcast Data
1. ``Loser,'' 3 Doors Down. Republic.
2. ``Awake,'' Godsmack. Republic.
3. ``Hemorrhage (In My Hands),'' Fuel. 550 Music.
4. ``One Step Closer,'' Linkin Park. Warner Bros.
5. ``Jaded,'' Aerosmith. Columbia.
6. ``N.I.B.'' Primus (w/Ozzy). Divine.
7. ``Outside,'' Aaron Lewis Of Staind With Fred Durst. Flawless/Geffen.
8. ``Drive,'' Incubus. Immortal.
9. ``Are You Ready?'' Creed. Wind-up.
10. ``Hanging By A Moment,'' Lifehouse. DreamWorks
Super Bowl on British TV
Sky Sports 1, a British-based satellite station, will be showing the Superbowl live from 10.30pm local time until 3am.
People who keep up with Diana Minor (a women's billiards player, and very good) may know that she is partly sponsored by Billie and Joe Perry. This was found at a website of hers:
Diana is sponsored on Tour by Mottier Amusements of Columbus, Indiana; and Billie & Joe Perry of Aerosmith.
Wall Street Journal article on the 3D Website
This is the article from the Wall Street Journal 1/24/01, front page of the "Marketplace" section...at the bottom. The title of the article is: Avatars Widen Realm of Virtual Reality on Internet
Web Sites Bet on Attracting Viewers With Humanlike Presences of Avatars
By KHANH T.L. TRAN and ANTONIO REGALADO
Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
SANTA MONICA, Calif. -- Steven Tyler is getting ready to rock the room.
On a recent Tuesday night in a spacious studio here, the frontman for rock
group Aerosmith shakes the kinks out of his sinewy arms and legs as he waits
for the first beat of "Chip Away the Stone" to kick in. When he hears the
guitar riff, he crisscrosses his feet in a little dance, flips around, grabs
the microphone and opens his famously wide mouth to sing. Lit by eight
lights against matte black walls, he gives an energized performance as nine
video cameras and a photographer record the scene. At the end of the song,
he raises his arms and bows at the waist.
Don't expect to see that footage on MTV. Mr. Tyler's song and dance will be
viewed only on the Web and performed by a computer doppelganger known as an
avatar -- a 3-D form that users can control on the Web through their
computer keyboards. Working with Old Greenwich, Conn.-based Worlds.com Inc.,
Aerosmith is developing a 3-D Web site that will allow the band and its fans
to use avatars to hang out and chat with and see one another online. This
cyber-rock venue, to be launched with the release of Aerosmith's next album
in March, will replace an Aerosmith Web site that is, in Mr. Tyler's words,
After years of fits and starts, avatars are gaining popularity on the
Internet. With improved technology that makes them more realistic and easier
to control, avatars are being used by rock bands, soft-drink makers and even
communications giants. Coca-Cola Co. recently launched an avatar-populated
site, in which the avatars mill around and chat in a Coke-sponsored world,
aimed at the Hong Kong market. And British Telecommunications PLC, in
conjunction with closely held Avatar-Me Ltd. of London, is test-marketing
possible products using some 271,000 photo-quality avatars of visitors to
London's Millennium Dome. People who had their pictures taken at the Dome
can go to the British Telecom Web site and download their avatars. About
20,000 have signed up to have their avatars appear when they play online
computer games such as the ultra-violent Quake III Arena and The Sims, a
popular game that simulates everyday life. British Telecom also is testing
such products as avatar e-mail, or software that makes the sender's face
appear and speak the message aloud.
3-D rules at Web sites using avatars, such as this one for the rock singer
"It could be that in 12 months we turn around and say avatars were just a
fad," says Matthew Lawson, head of a British Telecom research lab that has
been working on avatars. "But my gut feeling is that we can make a lot of
British Telecom and the other companies banking on avatars still have a long
way to go. The 3-D images are still far from realistic. Though the virtual
beings generally can raise their arms and move their legs as if they are
walking, other levels of detail vary from company to company. Conversation
between avatars is usually carried on in text that users type into a box
located at the bottom center of the screen. Maneuvering an avatar in
cyberspace on a slow Internet connection can be frustrating, too.
Some Web sites let users personalize the avatar by choosing a hairstyle and
outfit from a prepared wardrobe and modifying the body to be thinner or
taller. As with television, each user basically has the same view: his or
her avatar and the other avatars moving around the site. But unlike
television, the viewers are in control -- at least of their own figure on
the screen -- a fact that is both a selling point and a potential drawback
for the still-developing technology. Whatever you make your avatar do,
others see as well.
Opportunities are ripe for total chaos in the world of avatars. Michael
Sivak, director of production at Worlds, recalls a user who hacked into
software designed to make avatars and made one that looked like snow; the
avatar proceeded to blanket the Web site with whiteness. Worlds says it
doesn't object to that extreme customization as long as it doesn't destroy
the site. When users make their avatars venture beyond the fenced-in spaces
on Worlds' Web site, a floating monster gobbles them up and transports them
to an attic on the site. "That prevents them from breaking the rules," says
It's not only an avatar's behavior that must be kept in line. Costs, too,
can be an issue, depending on the realism sought. While the avatars created
by British Telecom, which replicate a person's face, clothes and general
body shape, cost the company a few dollars to produce, Worlds paid between
$30,000 and $50,000 to Atlanta-based Giant Studios Inc. to help make the
avatars of Aerosmith's five members.
Mr. Tyler and his colleagues donned black Lycra bodysuits covered in more
than 40 reflective nubs, including one taped to their chins. One by one, the
members lip-synched, pretended to play guitar or shook drumsticks as cameras
recorded the light reflecting off their bodies and converted the video data
into 3-D figures on a computer screen. Those 3-D figures will form the
skeleton for the members' avatars. The band members also posed for three
pictures taken by a special camera developed by 3DMetrics Inc., Petaluma,
Calif., that captured a 3-D view of their faces, for better realism as the
avatars turn and move about.
The cost of producing such avatars is just part of the financial picture.
Thom Kidrin, president and chief executive of Worlds, says he budgeted
$250,000 to create the Aerosmith virtual world, one of nine his company now
operates. The annual costs for maintaining a single site, he says, can range
from $100,000 to $200,000 a year, depending on the number of users and
features such as online video broadcasts. Aerosmith paid Worlds an
undisclosed sum to create the site.
Worlds' sites generate revenue through advertising and sales of music and
other merchandise, bringing in about $1.5 million in 2000. The revenue is
shared between Worlds and the site headliners -- mostly rock bands so far.
The company also charges users $1.50 a month for a VIP membership. While
access to Worlds sites and the use of an avatar shaped as a penguin is free,
VIP membership lets users customize a human avatar from a choice of features
supplied by Worlds. Worlds says it currently has more than 50,000 users
paying for a VIP membership. Mr. Kidrin expects the business will grow as
more people become familiar with virtual-reality environments.
Jester Digital Corp., a West Palm Beach, Fla., company that is building a
3-D Web site with avatars for the heavy-metal band Metallica, rejects the
idea of charging users for customizing and owning avatars. "I think that's
the same as charging for a mouse cursor," says John Textor, chairman and
chief executive of Jester. The Metallica Web site, to be unveiled Feb. 1,
copies inch by inch a new music studio the group is building north of San
Francisco and will let the group's fans hang out on the site as avatars.
Mr. Textor says that consumers can get unlimited avatars from a number of
Web sites run by companies such as Germany's Blaxxun Interactive Inc. and
Virtock Technologies Inc., Loveland, Ohio. Downloading software from these
sites for as little as $20 a pop allows users to create as many individual
avatars as they want, Mr. Textor says.
Jester says it earns revenue by attracting users to its site, which features
a virtual skate park, snowboarding slope and virtual rooms where fans of
bands including Green Day and the Hippos can hang out. Compact disks,
snowboards and other accessories aimed at the Gen-Y crowd are sold as well.
Jester, which is closely held, says the online sales make up less than half
of the $4.3 million in revenue it expects to record in 2000; the rest comes
from technology licenses and services and catalog sales.
From Entertainment Weekly (Super Bowl)
'N Sync, Britney, and Aerosmith will rock the Super Bowl. EW.com previews unday's MTV produced extravaganza
ROCK & JOCK 'N Sync is playing the Super Bowl halftime show
by Lori Reese
Forget head butting men in tights; the most memorable clashes of Super Bowl
XXXV may involve the entertainment. CBS has hired the Backstreet Boys to
croon the National Anthem and -- in a savvy display of corporate synergy --
they've got MTV, another Viacom owned company, producing the Jan. 28 halftime
show featuring the boy band's rivals 'N Sync, as well as Britney Spears, Mary
J. Blige, and Aerosmith. MTV's done its share of megaconcert broadcasts
(like Woodstock '99 and Live Aid) but it has never before been involved in
the globally hyped sporting event. However, the music network plans to put
its stamp on the annual football championship, which will be held at Tampa's
Raymond James Stadium and is likely to be watched by some 750 million people
worldwide. ''I don't think [last year's halftime creator] Disney would have
been knocking down Steve Tyler's door,'' Alex Coletti, a producer for MTV,
tells EW.com. ''The show totally is about who we are.'' Unlike previous
halftime organizers, MTV has opted not to give the 11 minute entertainment
break a specific theme. (Perhaps they learned a lesson from six time producer
Disney, whose 2000 ''Tapestry of Nations'' extravaganza suffered much post
game heckling from critics.) Instead, the network is hiring local extras to
pose as fans to create the look of a genuine rock show on the football field.
''In years past, you always get cheerleaders and marching bands, and we're
more of a mosh pit kind of place,'' says Coletti. ''The whole thing we want
to do, in the flick of a switch, is turn that sporting event into a rock and
roll concert.'' Coordinating the mini rockathon will be tricky, though. The
bands have three days of studio rehearsal time this week -- but they have a
scant six hours to practice assembling the show on the actual football
field. ''It's nerve racking,'' says Coletti, ''especially for my staging
guys. There's going to be a game going on. The stage is in pieces, and it's
got to fit through the stadium tunnels, which aren't huge. It's got to go
together in the time of a commercial break. It's a real science.'' Even the
set list is uncertain, he says. Each group has ideas about which song they
will perform, but ''when we finally get the two bands together, I'm sure we'll
have to start all over again.'' Coletti brags that the network's rock show
know how helped convince 'N Sync and Aerosmith to participate. ''Joe Perry
told me, 'When we got the phone call we said no way.' But after they heard it
was us producing, they had a band meeting and said, 'Sure we'll do it,'''
says Coletti. Of course, the chance to promote their first album in nearly
four years, ''Just Push Play'' [due this spring], probably also appealed to
Tyler and co. Don't be surprised if they choose to perform their first
single, ''Jaded.'' ''What's better than showing [a new song] to the world
during the Super Bowl?'' says Coletti. Likewise, the show's combination of
hard rock and teen pop is a potential bonus for CBS and the National Football
League. Ad buyers are predicting a 4 percent decline in ratings for the game
(compared to last year's), but Paul Schulman of Schulman/ AdvanswersNY thinks
this halftime show could help reduce that slide. While Aerosmith grabs the
attention of the NFL's beer swilling core audience, 'N Sync and Spears may
tease hefty numbers out of the far more fickle teen crowd. ''The toughest
audience in the world is between ages 12 and 24,'' says Schulman. ''The only
way to keep them lassoed to the screen is to offer the biggest acts for their
age group.'' Sorry, BBMak.
Yet another article... (Super Bowl)
Britney, Nelly Joining Aerosmith At Super Bowl
01.24.2001 3:26 PM EST
Britney Spears, Nelly and Mary J. Blige will walk the way of Run-
D.M.C. Sunday when they perform with Aerosmith during the finale of
the Super Bowl halftime show.
The chart-topping pop acts, announced Wednesday as performers,
and 'NSYNC will sing and rap along with the rock band to its 1976
hit, "Walk This Way," which was remade as a rap-rock hit with Run-
D.M.C. in 1986. The ending number will follow alternating songs
by 'NSYNC and Aerosmith, coordinating producer Greg Choa said.
'NSYNC will perform "Bye Bye Bye" and "It's Gonna Be Me," while
Aerosmith will do "I Don't Want to Miss a Thing" and their upcoming
single, "Jaded." The songs are subject to change, Choa added, as
rehearsals are just getting under way.
Past Super Bowl halftime shows have featured a variety of acts from
Michael Jackson to Big Bad Voodoo Daddy.
A top-notch list of performers that includes Bon Jovi, Sting and the
Backstreet Boys is also lined up for the pregame show this year
(see "Bon Jovi, Sting, Styx In Super Bowl Pregame Show").
The Backstreet Boys will sing "The Star-Spangled Banner," and
legendary soul singer Ray Charles will sing "America the Beautiful."
Bon Jovi will perform at a televised tailgate party, and Sting will
sing his latest hit, "Desert Rose," and the classic Police
tune "Roxanne" during the pregame stadium show, titled "Life's Super
in Central Florida."
Styx will perform "Come Sail Away" as pirates enter the stadium on a
mock ship during a portion of the show that won't be televised.
Tampa, Florida, pop group PYT also will perform, and Kevin James
of "King of Queens" will host.
The Super Bowl will be held at Tampa, Florida's Raymond James Stadium
and will air Sunday on CBS. MTV is producing the halftime show.
— Corey Moss
News as of January 24, 2001
Message From the NFL...
Britney Spears will be joining Aerosmith and 'N Sync for the Super Bowl
halftime show. Two other surprise guests whom MTV will not reveal also will
be on the card.
The halftime performance will last about 11 minutes and the bands actually
will sing, rather than lip-synch to a pre-recorded soundtrack.
AerosmithWorld Interactive Virtual World
Aerosmith Chooses Worlds.com to Provide Exclusive 3D Internet Web Site and to
Redesign Official 'Aerosmith.com' Site
OLD GREENWICH, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 24, 2001--
AerosmithWorld Interactive Virtual World Planned to be Available
on New Aerosmith CD 'Just Push Play" to be Released in March
Worlds.com (OTC/BB:WDDD) today announced that it has signed a revenue sharing
agreement with Aerosmith to develop and host a 3D web site to be called
AerosmithWorld, utilizing Worlds' three-dimensional (3D) virtual reality
Aerosmith has been one of the top selling and highest grossing musical groups
for the past three decades, having surpassed 100 million album sales. The
group will also appear live on the CBS Television halftime broadcast of this
year's Super Bowl on Sunday, January 28. Their performance will include
"Jaded," the first track from the group's forthcoming album, JUST PUSH PLAY,
due out in March.
Worlds will also redesign Aerosmith's official web site, currently available
at www.Aerosmith.com. The site will be customized, hosted and maintained by
The Worlds.com creation, AerosmithWorld, will be available for download from
Aerosmith.com and is planned to be included on the forthcoming Aerosmith CD
where the band kick-starts its own engine and "just pushes play."
Aerosmith World will include 3D environments for Aerosmith fans to enter,
explore, meet and greet one another in visually rich 3D environments
specially designed for Aerosmith by Worlds.com.
According to Thom Kidrin, president and CEO of Worlds, "For more than 30
years, Aerosmith has been a major international force in music, consistent
with and always a part of popular American culture. Our agreement will propel
the group to the next level of the Internet with the same creative foresight
that the group demonstrated with cutting edge videos for MTV.
"By continuing to establish the continuity among music, videos and online
virtual communities," Kidrin said, "Aerosmith will clearly demonstrate its
creativity across multiple media platforms. Fans will be able to step into
the world of Aerosmith as if they were stepping into their videos."
The group, said, "We've always been in our own world. Now, we get to share it
Worlds.com, the Internet's premier 3D virtual reality entertainment portal,
leverages its proprietary technology to offer visitors a network of virtual,
multi-user environments that have rich media graphics, text chat,
voice-to-voice chat, streaming video and e-commerce. The environments are
focused around entertainment interests and targeted communities such as
music, sports, and general entertainment environments. In the Worlds' Avatar
Gallery, visitors select an avatar (3D character), and customize it into a
personal virtual representation of themselves. The avatar is used to travel
in and through the various virtual environments and participate in
interactive activities involving entertainment, promotions, or e-commerce.
Avatars can chat with one another, dance in a nightclub, e-shop, watch video
clips and participate in other activities.
As America's premiere rock 'n roll band of all time, AEROSMITH are truly a
unique force in contemporary music. They've already sold over 100 million
albums around the world and earned an array of accolades (including Grammys
and MTV awards) and still continue to achieve new milestones in their career.
In 1998, the band's smash single "I Don't Want To Miss A Thing" became the
group's first-ever #1 Billboard pop hit and landed them an Academy Award
nomination. AEROSMITH'S 1997-99 "Nine Lives" tour was the biggest and most
successful trek of their career. In the U.S., the band performed a total of
160 shows in front of 3 million fans. Overseas, their trip to the UK and
Europe also marked their most successful international tour yet (including a
sold-out show at London's Wembley Stadium). Over the course of 20 overseas
shows, AEROSMITH -- STEVEN TYLER, JOE PERRY, TOM HAMILTON, BRAD WHITFORD and
JOEY KRAMER -- played to 600,000 wildly enthusiastic fans. AEROSMITH --
hailed by USA TODAY'S Edna Gundersen (12/15/00) as the "rare exception in a
field of stunted careers" -- will release a new studio album, JUST PUSH PLAY,
on Columbia in March 2001.
Worlds.com is headquartered in Old Greenwich, CT. For more information on
Worlds.com, please contact Gary P. Tobin at 203-409-2107.
In the January 29 issue of Newsweek there's a page about the Superbowl, Aerosmith and N'Sync performing, the behind the scenes thing and other stuff.
A Rock 'n' Jock Halftime
Can MTV actually make the Superbowl halftime show interesting? for years,
America's been treated to middle-of-the-road performers backed by
pyrotechnics spectaculars. But this year, in a bit of a corporate
synergy, CBS is letting its hipper little sister (also owned by Viacom)
control the show. So pyrotechnics? Check. Even the main musical guests,
Aerosmith and 'NSync, are not exactly on the outrageous end of MTV's
programming schedule. But the channel that brought us Britney's
striptease is sure to shock at some point during it's 11 minutes. Prime
offensive time could be the 90 second parody film kicking off the show.
Ben stiller and Adam Sandler or rather their '80s inspired alter egos--
are coaches. Their mission: Psyching up the musical acts backstage in
"the MTV locker room,' says director McGee, while Chris Rock contributes
socio-commentary on how Anglo the room is." (In other words, Rock plays
himself.) "Basically this halftime will have fewer giant puppets and
batons, more guitars and attitude." Dude, don't forget the beer and the
Super Bowl on German TV
The german chanel SAT 1 will be airing the Super Bowl. It's 4,5 hours so I think they will air
the show as well as the game.
News as of January 23, 2001
Yet ANOTHER Aerosmith Tribute Album....
Amazon.com has posted information on yet another Aerosmith Tribute album.
No, this is not the one Perris Records is releasing called "Aerosmithsonian:
Aerosmith Tribute." This one is called "Janie's Got A Gun: A Tribute To
Anyway. It's another tribute album of Artists that nobody has ever heard of. It's being released by the UK label "Dressed To Kill Records" on January 30, 2001. Here is the track listing:
1. Pink - Tom McNally
2. Walk This Way - The Butchers
3. Dream On - Kitty Litter
4. Janie's Got A Gun - Sonia Archer
5. Sweet Emotion - The Butchers
6. Fine - Sam Blue
7. Big Ten Inch Record - Wolfie
8. Love In An Elevator - The Darlicks
9. Toys In The Attic - Wolfie
10. Angel - Kristen De Beauvoir
11. Dude (Looks Like A Lady) - Tom McNally
12. I Don't Want To Miss A Thing - Sonia Archer
"Charlie's Angels" director shoots Super Bowl short
"Charlie's Angels" director shoots Super Bowl short
By Claude Brodesser
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - McG, the director of fall hit "Charlie's Angels," is
doing things backwards. Usually, promising young filmmakers make a short, and
then land their blockbuster.
Instead, he has just made "The Super Bowl Halftime Film," a short starring
Ben Stiller, Adam Sandler and Chris Rock, which will premiere during CBS'
Super Bowl XXXV broadcast on Sunday.
"It's about someone who offers preposterous advice to people who least need
it," explained McG (aka Joseph McGinty Nichol).
That someone is Tim Swackhammer, a nincompoop halftime coordinator who
fancies himself the David O. Selznick of live events.
Stiller will play Swackhammer, who will interact with both 'N Sync and
Aerosmith in the short, while Sandler will play a deejay who provides comic
relief. Rock is understood to provide the denouement to the fiasco caused by
The project, being produced by MTV, was written by Stiller and scribe Patton
News as of January 22, 2001
Prince at the Super Bowl? (I doubt this)
I had doubts about including this as it only seems like some fan of Prince with too much imagination. However, this was found on some Prince news page...
Still hope for a Prince performance at the Super Bowl?
In several AP articles this week for Aerosmith, (none of which I can find a link, I read it in the paper) Steven Tyler said they will play for 10 minutes and Nsync will play for 10 minutes at the Super Bowl and they will have special guests perform with them. The key here is this. Steven Tyler was quoted as saying that one of the scheduled special guests will only perform depending on if a certain team makes it into the Super Bowl. He goes on to say that they have never performed with this person before. There are a number of performers they have not played with, but we all know how Prince wanted to play "Purple Rain" WHEN Minnesota wins the Super Bowl.
Jaded IS at #5
Just thought I'd let you know about the Billboard #5 thing. I can confirm that Jaded was #5 in the Rock category.... It's even at wallofsound.com
News as of January 21, 2001
Super Bowl Commercials
There is no doubt that the Super Bowl is only a week away! MTV is showing a variety of different Super Bowl commercials:
1. There's one where there is a football team huddled in the locker room and the announcer is saying you have to be a great team to get into the Super Bowl or a great set of pipes! They pan over to the whole band and steven w/ his mouth wide open!
2. Another one w/ Ben Stiller and Adam Sandler...Pregame mini-movie seems those 2 are acting as teachers on how to put on a great performance....They are teaching the boys and N'Sync.
You should be able to download these at:
News as of January 20, 2001
Just Push Play in Japan... (from melodicrock.com)
Aerosmith have completed recording their new studio album and are currently mixing it with John Kalodner in New York. The album is due for release in march, with Japan already nominating the 14th as their release date. The Japanese version gets a bonus track and sticker in the first pressings of the new CD. A few titles to be included on the album are: Jaded, Angel's Eyes, Beyond Beautiful, Under The Skin & Avant Garden.
Jaded or Angel's Eye #5 on Billboard??
I've been told that some local paper, in a section they call Billboard's Hot Hits, says: Weekly charts for the nation's best selling recorded music as they appear in next week's issue of Billboard magazine. Listed at #5 under Mainstream Rock Tracks is Jaded
This doesn't sound very likely to me though, and I think that it should probably say Angel's Eye. On this page, with the top 10 mainstream rock tracks, Angel´s eye is on #5. It's been on top 10 since October 28.
Jaded Radio Airplay
Rock and Roll Online (rronline.com) is a good place for radio airplay
charts. They just put up a little blurb about Aerosmith. They had 255 radio
stations add the song to their playlists and it had the most increased
number of plays form the previous week (+1,338) Its at #8 on the Rock charts
(with Angel's Eye at #9), It wasn't even on the chart the week before. And
it shows it at #26 on the Active Rock charts which is pretty good
considering those stations don't usually consider Aerosmith as part of their
format. These charts use Soundscan like Billboard so they are usually pretty
close to each other. This song will definately be a HUGE hit!
Aerosmith Rocks With 255 Adds (from rronline.com)
The enduring group racks up a combined total of 255 adds at Rock, Active
Rock, CHR/Pop and Hot AC this week with "Jaded " (Columbia). The track also
earns Most Increased Plays at Rock and Active Rock with +1,338. It is the
debut single from Aerosmith's greatly anticipated forthcoming album, which
is due out in mid-March. The group was recently acknowledged at the American
Music Awards with the International Artist Award.
Advance copies of Just Push Play???
Some local radio station in LA is saying that they are going to give away an advance copy of "Just Push Play". I think this sound weird since it's a tad early to be giving away advance copies... I thought I'd mention it anyway though, since I think there's a big chance that we'll get to hear it before it's released (Napster) if they do...
News as of January 19, 2001
Jaded single - to be or not to be...
I've been informed that a press release from Columbia says that "Just Push Play" will be in stores March 20th, yet there will not be a single released for "Jaded"...
Now, at Tower Records web site you can now order an advanced copy of the CD single for "Jaded". Release date: 02/26/2001.
Now I don't know what to think. Oh well, guess we'll have to wait and see.
to be or not to be... #2 - MTV's 'Making The Video'
I've heard that Aerosmith won't be on MTV's 'Making The Video' after all, RockonTV has taken the listing of off the Aerosmith list for some unknown reason.
However, after 'Making The Video' with Christina Aguilera and Ricky Martin, MTV showed a preview of Aerosmith's "Making The Video." So, I would guess they are gonna be on the show. I don't know what to think...
News as of January 18, 2001
Jaded on Billboard Charts
According to Billboard.com Jaded was the highest debut this week on the
Billboars Hot 100 Singles Chart debuting at # 58 (and beating out the new
Ricky Martin/Christina Aguilera duet). Thats pretty good considering its not
a commerical single yet so lacks points to get that high on the chart. If
Jaded was available at retail I'm positive it would have been in the Top 20
at least (which would be higher than any single from Nine Lives).
Enter MTV's sweepstakes for a chance to win a trip to the E-Trade Super Bowl Halftime Show and watch live performances from Aerosmith in Florida. Besides attending the show, the winner will receive round-trip airfare and hotel accommodations, a backstage pass to Aerosmith's rehearsal, and $10,000. [Click here to enter]
Join MTV for our Spectacular Super Bowl Antics!
SUPER BOWL SWEEPSTAKES
* Win a chance to fly out to Super Bowl, and be up
* close and personal with Aerosmith.
* Get to see behind the scenes Aerosmith rehearsals
* before the game
* Go to MTV's hip Super Bowl party
* Be a part of the halftime show
SUPERBOWL HALFTIME SHOW
MTV Halftime Goodies
* Aerosmith performance
* Flipbooks of Aerosmith
* Video highlights from all 34 super bowls
TRL AT THE SUPER BOWL
January 28th at 12 noon ET
Aerosmith joins Carson for the countdown
Aerosmith on TRL/Super Bowl Edition
MTV is having a Super Bowl edition of TRL on January 28th at noon (yes - Super Bowl Sunday). Get your VCR's ready because Aerosmith are going to be interviewed on it! This is going to be on CBS, not MTV
Aerosmith To Be "Tooned"!
The talented artists at rocktoons.com are working on their version of Aerosmith! When they are complete, you will be able to buy merchandise with a cartoon version of Aerosmith on it!
News as of January 15, 2001
Yet another Aerosmith tribute album...
Another Tribute album is out at the end of the month called Aerosmithsonian.
Released: January 30, 2001
Label: Perris Records (2CD)
||Derek St. Holmes (Ted Nugent)|
|Back In The Saddle
||Derek St. Holmes (Ted Nugent)|
|Train Kept A Rollin'
||Derek Davis (Babylon A.D.)|
|Lord of The Thighs
||Ron Taylot (Lillian Axe)|
|Rock In A Hard Place
||Paul Shortino (Quiet Riot/Rough Cutt) featuring Jim Crespo|
|S.O.S. (Too Bad)
||Davy Vain (Vain)|
|Get The Lead Out
|Walk This Way
||Derek St. Holmes/Jason McMaster/Ron Keel/Derek Davis/Ron Taylor|
Carmine Apprice (Rod Stewart/Ozzy/Vanilla Fudge) - drums
Steve Fister (Lita Ford) - rhythm guitars
Jason McMaster (Dangerous Toys) - bass.
Guitar solos on the album by:
Gilby Clarke (G n R), Keri Kelli (Slash's Snakepit/Ratt), Mar Ferarri (Keel) and Jamie Scot (Vain).
Two days ago I posted that the 'Jaded' promo had the URL aerosmith.net on the back but that it didn't work. If you go there now its the same thing as aerosmith.com...
Australia release date (most likely wrong)
An Australian paper wrote that the new album is coming out in April and the single in Feb. The paper is prob wrong. I mean, they called the album 'Just Press Play'. Anyway...
News as of January 14, 2001
Confirmed for Japan, Jaded is 28 Feb and Just Push Play is March 14. For Europe, Jaded is out March 5 and the album March 19. As posted earlier, March 20 is the date the album should be released in the US.
On an MTV Show, 'History Of Sex', there's a little segment that talks about Janie's Got A Gun. It show about 5 clips of Steven and Joe talking about the meaning of the song and it also has other people talking about it. It also shows a good portion of the video.
News as of January 13, 2001
Jaded (promo) single cover art
[Click on the pictures to see bigger versions]
The back cover (among other things) says:
(Written by Tyler/Frederiksen)
Produced by The Boneyard Boys*
Recorded by Richard Chycki & Marti Frederiksen
Mixed by Mike Shipley & The Boneyard Boys*
John Kalodner : John Kalodner
Strings Arranged by David Cambell
* Tyler, Perry, Frederiksen & Hudson
Taken from the forthcoming Columbia release
Album in stores March 20, 2001
The URL www.aerosmith.net (not com) can also be seen on the back cover. I typed it in, but there's nothing there. Will it be a new site, or is it just a misprint?
Liv in People
Liv Tyler is in this weeks people magazine....She and her new beau Royston Langdon, a Spacehog band member. Its on page 14.
News as of January 12, 2001
Jaded! Single cover and songwriters
I just found a picture of the Jaded single! As you see it features the girl that also can be seen at aerosmith.com.
Aerosmith Choreographed? (Yahoo! News)
Also, I've heard that the promo CDs credits Steven Tyler and Marti Fredriksen as the songwriters of the song...
Top Music Choreographer Announces Partnership With Frontline Performance to Debut Landon by Frontline Apparel
"Frontline Performance, Inc., today announced a partnership with award winning choreographer Tina Landon to manufacture ``Landon by Frontline'' activewear. [...]
Landon is an Emmy nominated choreographer, a five-time MTV Video Music Award nominee, an American Choreography award winner, the recipient of the 1999 MTV Video Music ``Best Dance'' Award for Ricky Martin's ``Livin La Vida Loca,'' the 1995 MTV Video Music ``Best Choreography'' Award for Michael and Janet Jackson's ``Scream,'' Dance Masters of America's 115th Choreographer of the Year Award, special achievements from the National Council of LaRaza (Alma Awards) and the First Annual Hip-Hop Dance Awards. [...]
Landon recently choreographed Aerosmith at the American Music Awards and is poised to choreograph their half-time appearance at Superbowl XXXV. Other projects recently included Christina Aguilera's World Tour and ``My Reflections'' ABC Special..."
News as of January 11, 2001
News as of January 10, 2001
Did You Miss The AMA's? (AF1)
If you missed the premiere of Aerosmith's live performance of "Jaded," or if you just can't get enough of the snakes, acrobats and of course, the Boston Bad Boys, AF1 is streaming the segment for a limited time!
Aerosmith TV 56k
"Jaded" Performance 56K, 128k
It's Going To Be Super (AF1)
Along with their LIVE performance at Super Bowl XXXV, Aerosmith are reportedly filming something special for the most anticipated sports television broadcast!
While in Los Angeles, the band is filming a "super" surprise at the Sony Pictures lot with two comedic actors (we won't reveal their names as something should be left mum!). Don't forget to tune in to CBS on Super Bowl Sunday, January 28 - kickoff begins @ 6:00 PM.
Jaded Video Update (AF1)
AF1 reported earlier that Aerosmith would begin filming the eye candy for "Jaded" this week in Los Angeles. However, due to the band's busy schedule fine-tuning the premiere of their first single at the AMAs, the video production has not begun. The band has locked down a director for the video and we will keep you updated right here as more details surface.
Article on the AMAs
Taken from http://abcnews.go.com:
Paris Explodes for Lopez; Aerosmith Rocks On
The show, held in the Shrine Auditorium, opened with a rather odd production
number from Jennifer Lopez. It seemed to have something to do with Paris, but
Paris was exploding. It was also rather obvious that Jennifer was
The only standout performance of the night was Aerosmith’s scorching version
of their new single, “Jaded,” from their forthcoming CD. It kinda looked
like Cirque De Soleil gone horribly wrong, complete with a snake lady. But
man, does that song kick ass! And how cool was it that bassist Tom Hamilton
was playing a vintage violin-shaped Hofner, the same kind Paul McCartney used
in the early and late Beatle days.
Speaking of Aerosmith, lead singer Steven Tyler finally cleared up a recent
rumor saying the band didn’t want to receive something called the “Award of
Achievement,” and asked Dick Clark to change the name of the award.
Clark supposedly said no, so the band supposedly said they weren’t going to
pick up the award, or perform on the show. The name of the award was then
changed to the “International Artist Award,” but Tyler said the name of the
award had nothing to do with anything.
In the retrospective video shown before Aerosmith accepted the award, the
band included a clip from their “Living On The Edge” video, which shows
Tyler grabbing his crotch. Although the video has been shown hundreds of
times on MTV, Clark wanted that specific image taken out. THAT’s what angered
However, they eventually agreed to change it — inserting in its place a shot
of Tyler holding a foot-long hot dog from the famous Pink’s hot dog stand in
New v/a album featuring Joe Perry Project...
Nostalgic beat rocks Boston CD
by Dean Johnson
Tuesday, December 26, 2000
How do you capture nearly 35 years of local rock 'n' roll history on one CD?
Well, you can't.
But MarketVision, a Boston-based Internet marketing firm, has taken a
reasonable shot at it on the ``City Rocks Boston'' CD, and the results
make for some amusing listening, especially for former, homesick Hubsters.
The 15-track disc, available online at bands.com and at Best Buy and
Borders stores, is a necessarily schizophrenic effort. Along with the
obvious suspects (Boston's ``More Than a Feeling,'' the Cars' ``Just
What I Needed,'' the J. Geils Band's ``Centerfold'' and 'Til Tuesday's
``Voices Carry''), there are some important nonhits (Jonathan Richman's
``Roadrunner,'' Mission of Burma's ``That's When I Reach For My
Revolver'' and ``10-9-8'' by Face to Face) and a few cult favorites
(Juliana Hatfield's ``My Sister,'' Morphine's ``Buena'' and Joe Perry's
``Let the Music Do the Talking'').
Collections like this can jump-start more arguments than the next bad
Red Sox trade. There's no music from Aerosmith (licensing problems) or
Boston's first major label rock band, the Remains. The Standells' '60s
hit about Boston, ``Dirty Water,'' is included, even though the band
hailed from the West Coast. Onetime Bay Stater Norman Greenbaum's
hippy-trippy ``Spirit in the Sky'' is also part of the package, though
he has never been considered a part of the local music scene.
But it's a better-than-average attempt at sampling Boston's rich rock
history and superior to similar efforts by the same firm for Canada and
New York City.
MarketVision had successfully aired a number of television infomercials
for the likes of the Grateful Dead, the Allman Brothers, Diana Ross and
Itzhak Perlman before developing the ``City Rocks'' series of
compilation CDs that celebrate the music scene in a variety of cities
Scott Savitt, president of bands.com, the MarketVision subsidiary that
assembled the disc, said there was a simple reason the Newbury Street
company was able to come up with such a hip, eclectic CD for Boston.
``We're all sort of Bostonians here,'' said Savitt, 29. ``Boston is our
home base, and we all grew up with these bands. Plus, we wanted to have
the staples but also sprinkle in some songs from interesting bands
people have almost forgotten about or that spark nostalgic feelings.
Groups like Mission of Burma and Face to Face, for example, were just
The tricky part of the album was negotiating with major record labels
for the rights to local acts. ``Boston is such a strong market,'' he
said, ``and there are so many bands from here, it was difficult to
choose which ones to include on the album.''
Aerosmith, for example, turned the company down flat. So Savitt included
the original (and superior) version of ``Let the Music Do the Talking''
by the Aerosmith splinter group The Joe Perry Project just to have some
version of the band included in the package.
``You work with the major labels and try to pick all your favorites,''
he explained. ``Our original list exceeded 25-30 songs. Then we went
back and forth between the labels to get approval rights. I'd say we got
about 80 percent of what we really wanted from them.''
Which, of course, leaves more than enough local rock for a Volume II,
something Savitt hopes to put out by the end of next year . . . after
his company does a few more initial compilations for such backwater
towns as London, Tokyo and Detroit.
Jaded live on Napster
The live version of Jaded' from The American Music Awards is already on Napster
No single release???
A rumour I just heard says there will be no CD Single for Jaded. I don't know if this is true though...
Hollywood Walk Of Fame
Last month AF1 reported that Aerosmith would recieve their star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame on January 9th. Well, they didn't. Not entirely sure what happened there but as far as I know no date have been scheduled although the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce has said it will be sometime this year.
News as of January 9, 2001
From the Rolling Stone Aerosmith message board:
"Jaded" will be released as a single on January 16th and the album "Just Push Play" will come out on March 20th with a release party scheduled for New York City on March 18th.
Aerosmith's AMA Performance (AF1)
"WOW!" - seems to be the reaction of many fans after seeing Aerosmith perform their new single, "Jaded," at the 28th annual American Music Awards. Aerosmith, recipient of the International Artist Award and introduced by friend, Vincent Pastore and Laura Prepon (That 70's Show), stormed the stage in rock 'n' roll glory complete with circus acrobats, snakes and cigars! Steven, in a white suit, serenaded the acrobats before tossing his jacket to reveal a starry shirt. Serenading turned into screaming and the world heard the band's first single from Just Push Play, "Jaded." Joe crunched the guitar sporting black sunglasses, Tom (with new facial hair), Brad (with short hair and sideburns) and Joey donned themselves in black attire. In just over three minutes, Aerosmith brought the crowd to their feet and received one of the few standing ovations of the night.
Before Aerosmith hit the stage, a video montage from the Boneyard, live performances, videos and interviews depicted the band's international presence and history for the prestigious honor that has been awarded only four times (Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson, Bee Gees, Rod Stewart).
For those of us outside the viewing area, the performace has been converted into a real media file. If you want to check it out it's at Renata's page
R-R-Rehearsing J-J-Jaded! (AF1)
Aerosmith vs. Dick Clark article
Aerosmith vs. Dick Clark
Another innovation by Dick Clark, the Award Of Merit, is given to that
performer who went the extra mile in their career. The very first winner was
Bing Crosby, back on the debut AMA telecast in 1974, and past winners have
included Paul McCartney and Frank Sinatra. This year is no different. The
2001 Award Of Merit will be given to Janet Jackson for her many contributions
to music, dance, video and nasty boys.
Then there’s an interesting situation involving Aerosmith. The band was
originally slated to receive something called the “Award Of Achievement” at
this year’s AMAs for their “rare and distinguished accomplishments.” Three
weeks ago, word came down that Aerosmith didn’t like the name of the award
and asked Dick Clark to change it. Dick said no, so the band threatened to
not do the show at all.
In addition to getting the award in question, Aerosmith was also scheduled to
perform their new single, “Jaded” on the show. Reportedly, Dick Clark told
anyone who would listen that Aerosmith was off the show because it’s his show
and no one can tell him what to do, or what to call an award.
A visit to the official Dick Clark Production Web site reveals that Aerosmith
is now getting something called the “International Artist Award,” and they
will be performing their new single on the live telecast. Perhaps you can
tell Dick Clark what to do … if you’re Aerosmith.
News as of January 8, 2001
News as of January 7, 2001
Steven on E!
I've been told E! Fashion Reviews 2000 has Steven as the worst dressed
News as of January 6, 2001
Jaded!!! and Steven and Joe on the radio...
Okay, so now the new Aerosmith single is here!! It's being played on a bunch of radio stations all over the US and I heard it yesterday by listening to "Z100" (Listen)
Well after "Jaded", the DJ, Cubby, had Steven and Joe on the line!
Cubby: On the phone, from Aerosmith, Joe Perry and Steven Tyler!
Cubby: What's up Steven!
Steven: Yo Yo Yo!!!
Cubby: And Joe's on the phone too?
Cubby: It's like a party line, like $2.99 a minute for this.
Steven: You got everybody, is your mom there?
Cubby: No my mom's not here today!
Steven: Aww did she get the check?
Cubby: (Laughing) But you know what, ever since that whole event happened in
1997, when my mom was in the studio, we played "I Don't Want To Miss A Thing"
and you talked to her, she has never ever forgotten that!
Steven: You played the song so much I got sick of it, we had to change the
title to "I Don't Want To Kiss Your Thing"!
Cubby: (Laughing) Well man congrats, it's nice to have you guys back on the map!
Steven: Hey thank you.
Cubby: Man, "Jaded" just got World Premiered here at Z100, tell me about the song!
Steven: Well it depicts our life does it not?
Cubby: Yeah totally!
Joe: We didn't want to be too literal here but you know, I mean you can get out of it what you want.
Cubby: You know what, I'll tell you what, you guys I heard had fun when you recorded this. Joe didn't you guys record this on a farm or somewhere?
Joe: Well we did the drums on a place in New England at a farm but most of it was recorded at our houses. It's truly a basement tape record.
Cubby: Now Steven, tell me something., half time at the superbowl, what's the deal with this?
Steven: Ahhh it's just a beautiful thing are you kidding, I mean what chance to be in front of 800 million people.
Joe: It's about the biggest gig you could have man!
Cubby: Now are you going to do "Jaded" at the superbowl?
Steven: Yeah we are, we're gonna premiere it there as well.
Cubby: And your also gonna play it at the AMA's I believe.
Steven: You got it!
Cubby: That is awesome! Now, who is the lady, or the "chick" can I say, on
the CD single. I'm looking at a woman on the CD single for "Jaded".
Steven: You know, we're out here in LA right now working up the album and the AMA's and all that and I've been asking for 3 days for her phone number but I can't have it.
Joe: We're still looking for her out here, you know?
Steven: But some one threw me the apple core that she ate when she was done.
Cubby: Now is that gonna be, now see people don't know what I'm talking about because it's not out yet.
Steven: No because we did that cover special for you guys!
Cubby: Oh it's a special Z100 cover?
Steven: That's right!
Joe: Well if we get enough votes, we'll put it on the one that people can buy!
Cubby: Yeah, do you have any idea like what the CD's gonna be named yet?
Joe: The CD is gonna be named, the record, the record is called "Just Push Play".
Cubby: "Just Push Play" is the name of the album coming out, and when is it gonna be available for people to buy?
Joe: Ahh sometime in March I think.
Cubby: March, and until then we get to hear "Jaded" every hour on the hour!
Joe: Well that'd be great!
Cubby: (Laughing) Hey Steven and Joe, when are you gonna get the whole group and come hang with us in New York?
Steven: The first free minute we got, maybe sometime in April, ok?
Cubby: Come on man, your due for a Z100 radio show!
Steven: We'll launch the tour from there.
Cubby: Yeah, do it please, I'm gonna hold you to that, I got you on tape now!
Steven: Oh jeez!
Joe: There ya go!
Steven: From my lips to your mom's ears!
Cubby: Steven, Joe, Aerosmith, you know you guys are legends but you still haven't forgotten us little radio people and I appreciate that.
Steven: Hey listen, we appreciate it too, play the hell out of it!
Cubby: Well I just played it, what do you say we play it again?
Steven: One more time! Ladies and Genitals...
Joe: Here it comes!
Steven: Haha, your listening to "Jaded" on Z100, my God he's doing it again!
Joe: Have a good time!
That's it! Then they actually played the song AGAIN!
So how does it sound? Well, Jaded is not a ballad but it's certainly not a rocker either. I think it could be a hit though. I think it sounds good but when you compare it to other Aerosmith songs I must confess that I'm not too crazy about it. It's too much 'pop' for my taste. I want more loud guitars and this one hasn't even got a real guitar solo (Joe, What the f**k are you doing?!). This isn't the Aerosmith I know and love. Hadn't it been for Steven's vocals I wouldn't have thought this was an Aerosmith song. As I said, it's a little too radio oriented for my taste...
But I'm still hoping that the album will be really good. I hope that this is not the band's decision and that the record company is to blame. Record companies usually release the wrong singles, instead of releasing the singles that Aerosmith fans (or rock fans in general) will like, they release the singles that people who don't care about good music (ie, "pop" fans) will buy.
With that said I must say that I'm happy to hear some new material and it's not all bad, it's certainly better than most music made these days...
The Lyrics to Jaded (as transcribed by Travis Lawrence)
Aerosmith - Jaded
You've got your mama's style but your yesterday's child to me
You think that's where it's at but is that where it's supposed to be?
You're gettin' it all over me
My, my, baby blue
(Yeah I'm thinkin' 'bout you)
My, my, baby blue
Yeah, you're so Jaded
And I'm the one that Jaded you
In all its misery it will always be what I love and hated
And maybe take a ride to the other side we're thinkin' of
We'll slip into the velvet glove
And be Jaded
(w/) Yeah, I'm so Jaded
And baby I'm afraid of you
You're thinkin' so complicated
I've had it all up to here
But it's so overrated
Love and hate it
Wouldn't trade it
Love Me Jaded
There ain't no "baby please" when I'm shootin' the breeze with her
When everything you see is a blur
And extacy's what you prefer
(w/) (Blue, blue, blue, Yeah)
(I'm talkin' 'bout you)
(Blue, blue, blue, blue Yeah)
(Yeah, been thinkin' 'bout you)
My, my, baby blue
Yeah, you're so Jaded (Baby)
You're so Jaded
'Cause I'm the one that Jaded you
Jaded on MP3!
Until the single/album is released we of course need to listen to it in some other way, doesn't we? Of course Jaded is already on Napster. You should be aware that there are alot of bad versions of it on there though, and some aren't even the Aerosmith song.
If you do decide to use Napster I suggest you search for:
Title: Jaded (NEW 01-05-01)
(The length is 3:28 and the size about 4 mb - that's the whole song)
This version has very good sound quality and should do until we can get our hands on the album and/or single...
An even easier way to get this file is using this link:
News as of January 5, 2001
Listen to Jaded online!
The radio station in New York playing "Jaded" at 5:00 this afternoon has a live feed on the web where we should be able to listen to the new single.
When you open the page you have to find the radio stations name in the list (WHTZ "Z100" - 100.3 FM New York) and click on the live feed link.
According to RockOnTV- the ultimate guide to music on television, Aerosmith
will be on MTV's Making The Video on February 6 at 10:30 pm ET.
More Aerosmith appearances
on VH1... They are going to be on Rock Show on 1/6 at 12 a.m. ET (which is
actually Friday night at midnight)
on MTV...Aerosmith will be on Ultra Sound on 1/8 at 11 p.m. EST.. (which
should be after the AMA Awards)... The show is going to focus on Feuds.. They
even mention that the Joe Perry Project will be shown...
This is from the show's description...
"In the show's final segment, "Feuds" examines how some classic rockers were
able to put their feuding pasts behind them and enjoy successful and
profitable reconciliation's. MTV News talks to Aerosmith's Steven Tyler and
Joe Perry, Fleetwood Mac, Kiss and The Eagles. "
The Ultra Sound may be a repeat..we're not sure if it is
the old show they've shown in the past or a new one on the same subject.
News as of January 4, 2001
Jaded on the radio!
For all you New Yorkers, (I don't know if they're doing this anywhere else) 100.3 (Z100) are premiering Aerosmith's new song "Jaded" this Friday at 5:00pm sharp!!!
Tyler and Perry will NOT appear on
Run DMC's new album
Just wanted to tell everyone that after a year off no official word... Arista
Records has finally said that Steven Tyler and Joe Perry will NOT appear on
Run DMC's new album "Crown Royal."
Here is the official track listing:
1. "It's Over" (featuring Jermaine Dupri)
2. "Them Girls" (featuring Fred Durst)
3. "The School Of Old" (featuring Kid Rock)
4. "Take The Money And Run" (featuring Everlast)
5. "Rock Show" (featuring Stephan Jenkins of Third Eye Blind)
6. "Here We Go 2001" (featuring Sugar Ray)
7. "Run & Rule" (featuring Ja Rule)
8. "Queens Day" (featuring Nas & Prodigy of Mobb Deep)
9. "Let's Stay Together (Together Forever)" (featuring Jagged Edge)
10. "Simmons Incorporated" (featuring Method Man)
12. "Crown Royal"
(Taken from: http://www.arista.com/aristaweb/RunDMC/info.html)
Originally the album was supposed to be a double album with new material
(the above) and a second CD of their greatest hits re-recorded in which
"It's Tricky" would be recorded with Steven Tyler and Joe Perry. Well,
apparently that was only a plan which never ended in Steven and Joe in the
recording studio. Well, anyway...the only reason I sent out this e-mail is
because it has been a year that neither the Run DMC or Aerosmith camps
confirmed that this song was either recorded or NOT recorded.
Aerosmith Article from LA Life
Daily News/Wednesday, January 3, 2001/LA LIFE Page 2
Aerosmith gets 'N Sync for Super Bowl
Aerosmith's Steven Tyler and Joe Perry want you to know their Super Bowl
halftime extravaganza ---with 'N Sync as the other headlining act---is going to
be "like a great rock show squeezed together into 10 minutes," as Tyler puts
it. "'N Sync will do a song. We'll do a song. ...What great opposites, huh?"
he adds. "It's a split stage. They'll go from one to another to another ---
and then at the end, there's gonna be a few surprise guests." The bad ol' boy
giants of stadium rock have been "working on a little arrangement" with
America's reigning boy band for the show, and both may wind up performing
Aerosmith's "Walk This Way."
What a year 2001 is stacking up to be for Aerosmith. The group is being
honored at the American Music Awards on Monday night and preparing to launch a
new album come spring--- with an advance single, "Jaded," on the way. There'll
be a tour kicking off in May or June. The band gets a star on Hollywood's Walk
of Fame around that time. And, oh yes, it's being inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame.
Aerosmith has been waxing its new album at the home studios of Tyler and Perry
in Boston. "The light at the end of the tunnel is very bright," notes Joe.
"And we're actually so far along in the process that we know it's not a train,"
adds Steven. "this is the first time it's really been la cosa nostra --- our
thing," says Perry. We're producing the album all by ourselves, nurturing it
along, kind of underground. It has a real vibe.
We've all heard that the title of the new album will be 'Just Push Play' but in the UK magazine Kerrang this week it says that the title is something like 'Am I Too Loud For You'. Kerrang are usually very well
informed so this sound a little strange...
Aerosmith on VH1?
I heard that VH1 is in the process of finishing up a piece with Aerosmith that will coincide with the new record. From what I hear it may be a Legends, not a Behind The Music, since Aerosmith is going to the Hall of Fame.
News as of January 3, 2001
Jaded Video Shoot!!
According to AF1 Aerosmith is slated to shoot the video for their new single, "Jaded," next week in Los Angeles!
IDWTMAT in Australia
According to the 'Herald Sun' newspaper the other day, "I Dont Want To Miss A Thing" was in the top 100 of most played songs on Australian radio in the year 2000. It didn't have what number it came in at though. Not bad for a 2 year old song!
Aerosmith Laser Show at Museum of Science in Boston
Boston's Museum of Science has an Aerosmith Laser Show. From what I hear it's pretty awesome. I've been told they have this 'set list':
Livin' On the Edge
Fallin' in Love (Is Hard On The Knees)
Kings and Queens
Janie's Got a Gun
Walk This Way
Dude (Looks Like a Lady)
Love in an Elevator
Train Kept a Rollin'
Back in the Saddle
Rats in the Cellar
The lasers are great.. They start the show with giant Aero wings flying around the ceiling and they have incredible images... song to song you never see the same thing twice...From the dude dressing up like a lady...the explosive lights on Janie, to the spiraling lights of Elevator (going down!!).. If you get the chance you should go check it out.
Here is the link to the Musuem of Science's web site...they have the schedule up there..
MOS: Laser Shows
(BTW There are also shows for Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd)